GEORGETOWN vs OHIO STATE
3/31/07 6:07PM at Georgia Dome, Atlanta, GA
Final score: OHIO STATE 67, GEORGETOWN 60
GEORGETOWN Min +/- Pts 2PM-A 3PM-A FTM-A FGA A Stl TO Blk OR DR PF
Summers, DaJuan 29:16 - 3 3 /47 1 -6 0 -4 1 -2 10/38 3 /18 1 /43 3 /44 1 /30 2 /20 1 /27 0
Green, Jeff 39:57 - 5 9 /60 4 -5 0 -0 1 -2 5 /50 3 /21 0 /57 3 /58 0 /43 3 /29 9 /37 4
Hibbert, Roy 23:58 + 13 19/49 9 -13 0 -0 1 -4 13/35 1 /12 0 /34 2 /37 1 /28 2 /17 4 /27 4
Wallace, Jonathan 37:08 - 6 19/56 2 -3 5 -9 0 -0 12/48 1 /16 1 /55 2 /56 0 /40 1 /27 0 /36 1
Sapp, Jessie 30:25 - 10 10/46 2 -2 2 -7 0 -0 9 /40 4 /16 1 /46 0 /47 0 /32 0 /23 2 /25 2
Macklin, Vernon 05:13 + 0 0 /9 0 -0 0 -0 0 -0 0 /5 0 /3 0 /8 1 /8 0 /4 0 /3 2 /5 0
Rivers, Jeremiah 13:31 - 5 0 /18 0 -0 0 -0 0 -0 0 /16 2 /7 0 /19 1 /17 1 /14 0 /12 1 /14 1
Crawford, Tyler 03:20 - 2 0 /0 0 -0 0 -0 0 -0 0 /4 0 /0 0 /4 0 /4 0 /4 0 /4 0 /3 0
Ewing, Patrick 17:12 - 17 0 /15 0 -1 0 -1 0 -0 2 /19 3 /7 0 /24 2 /24 0 /20 1 /15 1 /11 3
TOTALS 40:00 60 18-30 7 -21 3 -8 51 17/25 3 /58 14/59 3 /43 9 /30 21/37 15
0.600 0.333 0.375 0.680 0.052 0.237 0.070 0.300 0.568
OHIO STATE Min +/- Pts 2PM-A 3PM-A FTM-A FGA A Stl TO Blk OR DR PF
HARRIS, Ivan 14:50 - 1 9 /24 2 -6 1 -1 2 -4 7 /21 1 /6 1 /22 1 /21 0 /11 5 /15 2 /7 0
ODEN, Greg 19:41 + 5 13/41 6 -11 0 -0 1 -4 11/28 0 /9 1 /32 2 /32 1 /16 3 /16 6 /15 4
CONLEY JR, Mike 38:40 + 10 15/67 6 -9 1 -3 0 -0 12/56 6 /18 0 /57 1 /57 0 /30 2 /36 3 /30 1
LEWIS, Ron 34:10 + 3 9 /61 1 -5 0 -3 7 -8 8 /48 2 /21 3 /52 3 /50 0 /27 2 /31 3 /26 0
BUTLER, Jamar 34:10 + 3 10/61 2 -3 2 -6 0 -0 9 /48 4 /18 0 /52 0 /50 0 /27 0 /31 0 /26 1
LIGHTY, David 24:53 + 2 5 /37 2 -3 0 -0 1 -1 3 /36 0 /14 2 /36 0 /34 0 /19 2 /22 1 /22 2
COOK, Daequan 07:27 + 7 2 /12 0 -3 0 -1 2 -2 4 /10 0 /3 0 /10 0 /12 0 /3 0 /7 0 /5 0
TERWILLIGER, Matt 09:50 + 8 2 /15 1 -1 0 -0 0 -0 1 /14 0 /6 1 /13 0 /14 1 /7 1 /7 2 /8 1
HUNTER, Othello 16:19 - 2 2 /17 1 -2 0 -0 0 -0 2 /24 0 /5 0 /21 1 /20 1 /10 1 /20 3 /11 1
TOTALS 40:00 67 21-43 4 -14 13-19 57 13/25 8 /59 8 /58 3 /30 16/37 21/30 10
0.488 0.286 0.684 0.520 0.136 0.138 0.100 0.432 0.700
Efficiency: OHIO STATE 1.155, GEORGETOWN 1.017
eFG%: OHIO STATE 0.474, GEORGETOWN 0.559
Substitutions: OHIO STATE 19, GEORGETOWN 25
2-pt Shot Selection:
Dunks: OHIO STATE 1-1, GEORGETOWN 3-3
Layups/Tips: OHIO STATE 10-14, GEORGETOWN 11-17
Jumpers: OHIO STATE 10-28, GEORGETOWN 4-10
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Sunday, April 1, 2007
Final score: OHIO STATE 67, GEORGETOWN 60
Labels:
NCAA tournament,
Ohio State
Saturday, March 31, 2007
News: And so it goes
The Hoyas magical run came to an end today, with a loss to the OSU Buckeyes, 67-60.
Here's the four factors chart for the game using the official box score:
While the eFG% for both G'town and OSU are right where you'd like to see them for both halves, the other stats show where the game was lost. There were 6 more turnovers and 7 less offensive rebounds for the Hoyas, so OSU took 13 more opportunities to score and Georgetown wasn't able to make up that difference with shooting accuracy as they did against UNC. And give the Buckeyes credit for the turnover difference, as they had 8 steals in the game, five more than G'town; they were able to score a number of times on the fast break thanks to those steals (which hurt much more than TOs that result in a whistle, e.g. traveling calls).
I'm off-line for a week. Hopefully one (or some) of the other posters on this blog can write up a season recap (I'm looking at you, Mike).
Congratulations to the Georgetown players and coaches on a fine season.
And a tip of the cap to Mike Conley Jr., Greg Oden and the rest of the Buckeyes for their great game today, and good luck to them in the finals.
Here's the four factors chart for the game using the official box score:
Stat | 1st | 2nd | Full |
Pace | 28 | 31 | 59 |
OEff | 82.6 | 119.1 | 101.8 |
eFG% | 52.5% | 58.1% | 55.9% |
TO% | 32.3% | 16.1% | 23.8% |
OR% | 23.1% | 46.2% | 34.6% |
FTM/FGA | 10.0% | 3.2% | 5.9% |
DEff | 96.9 | 128.8 | 113.7 |
eFG% | 44.2% | 50.0% | 47.4% |
TO% | 14.4% | 13.2% | 13.8% |
OR% | 31.6% | 55.6% | 43.2% |
FTA/FGA | 30.8% | 35.5% | 33.3% |
While the eFG% for both G'town and OSU are right where you'd like to see them for both halves, the other stats show where the game was lost. There were 6 more turnovers and 7 less offensive rebounds for the Hoyas, so OSU took 13 more opportunities to score and Georgetown wasn't able to make up that difference with shooting accuracy as they did against UNC. And give the Buckeyes credit for the turnover difference, as they had 8 steals in the game, five more than G'town; they were able to score a number of times on the fast break thanks to those steals (which hurt much more than TOs that result in a whistle, e.g. traveling calls).
I'm off-line for a week. Hopefully one (or some) of the other posters on this blog can write up a season recap (I'm looking at you, Mike).
Congratulations to the Georgetown players and coaches on a fine season.
And a tip of the cap to Mike Conley Jr., Greg Oden and the rest of the Buckeyes for their great game today, and good luck to them in the finals.
Labels:
NCAA tournament,
Ohio State
Friday, March 30, 2007
Guest Analysis: GU-OSU Preview
I'd have to say that one of the best parts of starting this blog is the occasional contribution I receive. This one is probably the best so far, by Tom G. (last name withheld in case he billed this tome to a client):
(All stats from KenPom's pages for the two teams: Georgetown and Ohio State.)
Defense wins championships, right? Not in this year's Final Four: Ohio State and Georgetown both feature an oustanding offensive and a very good defense, as does Florida on the other side of the bracket (UCLA is the token great defensive team this year). The Hoyas rank first in adjusted offensive efficiency at 125.1, and the Buckeyes are 4th with a very healthy 123.2. The Buckeyes counter with a slightly better defense, 87.7 efficiency, 14th, while the Hoyas are 18th nationally at 89.0. From an overall efficiency perspective, these two teams are very closely matchup, and is basically a pick'em.
GEORGETOWN ON OFFENSE
How They Win
When the Hoyas do well offensively, the most important thing they do is make shots. Yes, I know this seems obvious, but you're going to see it four times, because it's that important. Also strongly correlated with Hoya offensive efficiency are offensive rebounding and turnovers (pace is also strongly correlated, but I suspect that's a function of turnovers).
What They're Good At
Since they're the nation's most efficient offensive team, the Hoyas are good at a couple things. But the most important thing they're good at is making shots: 57.0% eFG, 4th nationally. In particular, they make 2 pointers, 57.7%, 2nd. They're not too bad at 3's, either, 37.1%, 69th, but they're not a POT, and take shots from behind the arc at about an average rate (34.6%, 156th). The Hoyas are very good at offensive rebounding, taking in 40.5% of their misses, 7th nationally. They're also pretty good at not getting their shots blocked, 7.1%, 44th. There are two related categories, however, where the Hoyas are not very good: turnovers and steals. Hoya turnovers occur on 21.9% of possessions, 209th, and 11.2% of possessions end in a steal, 273rd best. It's generally really, really hard to score when you give the ball away every fifth time you go down the court, but the Hoyas have managed it. Better, their trendline for this stat looks good: in none of their seven postseason games (BET + NCAAs) have the Hoyas turned the ball over on 20% of their possessions. Their longest previous such streak was a mere two games. This might be the result of some coaching emphasis by JT3 and the staff, heightened awareness and care by the players, or maybe just some good luck. If it ends on Saturday, the Hoyas will need to be even better in the other areas of performance.
OHIO STATE ON DEFENSE
How They Win
When the Buckeyes do well defensively, the most important thing they're doing is not letting their opponent make shots. This is still obvious, and still very important. The Buckeyes also win when they force turnovers, and lose when they let their opponent shoot lots and lots of free throws. Both Wisconsin and North Carolina had an FTR over 50% in their victories over the Buckeyes (Florida won because they shot the lights out).
What They're Good At
Remember that part above where I said Buckeye opponents who win shoot free throws? Nobody else shoots free throws against Ohio State (well, almost): 21.1% FTR, 2nd nationally (behind huh, what, really defensively dreadful Arizona). The Buckeyes are also excellent at blocking shots, 15.7%, 11th nationally. Teams also have trouble shooting the 2: 44.1%, 28th, and aren't good at 3's, either: 33.1%, 84th. This makes for a good combination: 46.2% eFG, 37th. Like Hoya opponents, Buckeye opponents shoot a lot of 3's, 37.3%, 270th fewest. The Buckeyes aren't too shabby on the offensive glass, either, allowing opponents to rebound 31.1% of their own shots, 69th best. The Buckeyes are a little above average, 10.2%, 136th, at stealing the ball, but they aren't very good at forcing turnovers, 20.1%, 218th.
MATCHUPS TO WATCH
Roy Hibbert is a beast on the offensive glass (14.7%, 19th). Greg Oden is a beast on the defensive glass (23.4%, 37th). 6'5" Daequan Cook is a very good defensive rebounder (20.9%, 98th, better than any Hoya). The Hoyas will have a height advantage at most positions most of the time, likely including whomever Cook is on. Can they successfully use that height to crash the glass?
Mike Conley is excellent at stealing the ball, 4.3%, 27th Will Wallace, Sapp, and Rivers protect the ball? Since nobody else on the Buckeyes gets any steals, will the Hoyas try to avoid playing against the ball with Conley?
Oden is a shot-altering presence in the middle (12.8% blocks, 8th). Oden's likely replacement, 6'9" Othello Hunter isn't too bad, either (6.8%, 69th). Tennessee's last chance failed because Ramar Smith did the dribble penetration and Oden was there to block his shot (seriously, how did you not know that was going to happen?). If the Buckeyes play zone, as would seem likely, how will the Hoyas deal with Oden in the middle?
OHIO STATE ON OFFENSE
The Buckeyes triumphed over Memphis in the South Regional Final by a final score of 92-76. But the game wasn't a blowout the entire way. At the 11:43 mark of the second half, Antonio Anderson hit a jumper to stake the Tigers to a 58-54 lead. On Ohio State's ensuing possession, Joey Dorsey hacked Mike Conley Jr. to pick up his fourth foul, and the parade of Buckeyes to the line began. In the first 28 minutes of the game, Memphis took 18 from the free throw line, and Ohio State took 15. Over the last 11 1/2 minutes, the Tigers took a mere 2 from the charity stripe, and the Buckeyes were granted 26. Yes, some of those attempts (12, probably) were the result of the "mandatory" foul-and-three late-game strategy. But even discounting those, that's still a 14-2 disparity. Naturally, none of the commentary I've seen has focused on this little piece of news. Yes, Memphis sent their opponents to the line a lot. But this was really a key factor in the Buckeye win Saturday, and also in their win against Tennessee on Thursday (68.6 FTR).
How They Win
Oddly, though, getting to the line isn't something the Buckeyes are that great out. Their overall FTR rate is actually a hair worse than that of the Hoyas, at 26.0, 136th nationally. What they do do to win is hit shots. Yes, I'm going to say it again. When teams make their shots, they play do well offensively. The Buckeyes also do well offensively when they crash the glass. Greg Oden and Othello Hunter are both dynamite offensive rebounders, ranking in the top 16 nationally. But overall, the Buckeyes are only an average offensive rebounding team (34.7%, 128th). If you can prevent the center from getting rebounds, you're that much closer to victory.
What They're Good At
Thanks in part to Mike Conley Jr., the Buckeyes are very good at holding onto the basketball. They only turn the ball over 17.5% of the time, 22nd nationally. Remember how Georgetown hasn't turned the ball over much lately? You have to go back 20 games before you find a single game where Ohio State turned the ball over as much as Georgetown has in an average game this year. Relatedly, the Buckeyes also rank 22nd nationally in preventing steals. The Buckeyes are pretty good at making their shots: they hit 53.4% of their 2's, 22nd nationally (seriously, is Tyler Crawford available for a hex?). It's also hard to block their shots, even harder than it is to block a Hoya's shot (6.9%, 33rd). They shoot ok from 3, 36.8%, and are above average at how frequently they shoot them, 36.8%, 103rd), but they shoot 2's a lot for a team often made up for Oden and four guys who are largely perimeter players (sorry, Wonk, they really don't have much inside depth). Importantly, there aren't any aspects of the offensive game the Buckeyes are bad at.
GEORGETOWN ON DEFENSE
How They Win
When Georgetown is playing well defensively, everything can matter. Naturally, the best correlation comes with ... you guessed it, keeping the opponent from making shots. I know, you're all shocked. The Hoyas also do well defensively when they prevent the opponent from getting offensive rebounds (see North Carolina game, first half versus end of game). The Hoyas do well defensively when they force their opponent to turn the ball over. The Hoyas do well defensively when they don't turn the ball over on the offensive end--based on this, I expected transition D to be a big key to the North Carolina game, and the Hoyas performed better than I expected. One game does not make a trend, though, and the Hoyas would be wise to keep up their current trend of not turning the ball over very often. Hoya opponents also score frequently when they get to the line a lot (again, see UNC, first half versus end of game; see also Syracuse and Duke).
What They're Good At
I keep harping on making shots on offense and preventing the other team from making shots on defense. Well, the Hoyas are really, really good at this on defense. Opponents hit only 43% of their 2's, 13th best, and 30.3% of their 3's, 7th best. Even better, perhaps, Hoya opponents shoot the 3 even more frequently than Buckeye opponents do (38.1% 3 pointers, 291st fewest). Part of the reason opponents shoot 3's rather than 2's, and shoot so poorly, is the Hoyas block shots, better even than the Buckeyes (16.0%, 9th best). The Hoyas are also pretty good at not sending opponents to the line, 32.1%, 78th. Thus endeth the list of things the Hoyas are good at defensively. The bad news: the Hoyas don't force their opponents to turn the ball over, and they don't get steals. Again, the Hoyas are atypical: most good offensive teams don't turn the ball over very much, and most good defensive teams force turnovers. These aspects of the game make up for ills in other places, and it's rare for a team to be like the Hoyas. But, the Hoyas are the Hoyas, and should be treated as such. Ceteris paribus, you'd like to see the Hoyas force more turnovers on defense. But (1) the Buckeyes are very good at not turning the ball over and (2) if it means the opposing teams make more of their shots, forcing turnovers may not be worth it. For being such a big team, the Hoyas are surprisingly mediocre at protecting the glass, taking in only 66.4% of missed shots, 174th best. Interestingly, Hoya opponents shoot 71.1% from the line, 272nd best/worst. Stylistically this is an interesting stat: are the rims more friendly than normal in a team's home gym? Is a team just unlucky? Or do they tend to foul perimeter guys, who tend to be good foul shooters? I suspect this last is most important, but can't say for sure.
MATCHUPS
Daequan Cook only plays about half the minutes, but when he's in, he makes sure his presence is felt, taking 29.7% of shots when he's in the game. He's Ohio State's best 3-point shooter at 42.2%, but is comparatively unimpressive on 2's, hitting a mere 47.0%.
Jamar Butler plays the most of any Buckeye, but doesn't take that many shots (15.4%), and most of those are from long range (190 attempts from beyond the arc, 58 from inside).
Hibbert, Green, Ewing, and Summers are all very good shot blockers, and should be as taller as the man they're guarding (except whoever's one Oden when Hibbert is out). How will the Buckeyes make sure they get their shots up?
Greg Oden has never played against somebody taller than him (well, at least not in a game in the past couple years). How will he handle playing somebody he can't look over?
Mike Conley may not be much of a distance shooter (30.2% on 3's, though he has looked better since the beginning of the year), but he takes (and makes) good shots (57.5% on 2's). Whose job is it to stop his dribble penetration?
The Buckeyes have four guys who've taken at least 125 3 pointers this year. None is as good as Wallace, nor as bad as Sapp. Will somebody have an exceptionally good or exceptionally bad night from beyond the arc? If somebody is having a good game, will the Hoyas adjust to defend against one of a couple different players who can shoot from range?
WHAT I HOPE FOR
A repeat of last year's game. Georgetown using its size advantage effectively. Precision execution. Greg Oden being frustrated. Mike Conley without more than a steal or two.
WHAT I FEAR
The game decided on whether Wonk's statement applies better to Oden or Hibbert. Mike Conley with a triple double. Greg Oden's presence forcing too many outside shots from Sapp and Summers. Hot Buckeye three point shooting. Thad Matta's ABC gum. Oden and Hunter dominating the offensive boards.
PREDICTION
Hoyas, 70-62. I feel MUCH better about this game after going through this preview. These two teams do a lot of the same things well, but the Hoyas do most of them a little bit better.
Labels:
Final Four,
Ohio State,
Pre-Game
Thursday, March 29, 2007
Analysis: OSU Performance
Just a quick and dirty analysis of OSU's total, offensive and defensive performance. I'll post G'town's charts right above OSU's, for comparison.
For review, I define performance as the difference (in points) between KenPom's predicted point spread and the actual point difference in the game. Since I use current efficiency data, all of the predictions are made retroactively based upon how the teams are playing now, or in most cases, how they finished. This can be a bit misleading, as it doesn't account for injuries, transfers, etc.
Offensive and defensive performance are based on the difference between the expected efficiency (based on team's and opponent's season average) and the actual efficiency in that game. These are also converted to points, based upon the actual game pace, to allow comparison to overall performance.
All of this data is thanks to KenPom's Game Plan pages for each team.
It is important to keep in mind that these stats are normalized to the average performance for a given team. Since OSU and Georgetown are very similar in offensive and defensive efficiency and KenPom's pythagorean ratings, this is a rare time when you won't get in much trouble just comparing the two sets of graphs.
Also note that I've stolen from PhogBlog (or was it Big Ten Wonk?) and added polynomial fit lines through the data. While these give a rough idea of trend, don't get too hung up on them, as typically the data has so much scatter that their significance is weak.
Overall performance (as always, click any figure to enlarge)
Georgetown

OSU

Just visually, OSU is the more consistant team, and KenPom agrees - his consistency stat ranks OSU 99th, G'town 220th. Georgetown has shown greater improvement as the season has progressed, but both teams seem to have peaked or plateaued at this point (good timing). I'll argue that this is a marker of good coaching.
Offensive Efficiency Performance
Georgetown

OSU

Again, OSU is the more consistent team (that first data point was a win against VMI and their 321st ranked defense, so the Buckeyes were going to look bad unless they absolutely destroyed them). More interestingly, OSU seems to have found another gear offensively in the Sweet 16. Georgetown, as we've seen all year, has become a very good offensive team, with an occasional stinker (e.g. @ Syracuse) and an occasional jaw-dropper (UNC).
Defensive Efficiency Performance
Georgetown

OSU

Here, both teams seem to have moved a bit past their peak, although the scatter in the data is too large to say that with any confidence.
For review, I define performance as the difference (in points) between KenPom's predicted point spread and the actual point difference in the game. Since I use current efficiency data, all of the predictions are made retroactively based upon how the teams are playing now, or in most cases, how they finished. This can be a bit misleading, as it doesn't account for injuries, transfers, etc.
Offensive and defensive performance are based on the difference between the expected efficiency (based on team's and opponent's season average) and the actual efficiency in that game. These are also converted to points, based upon the actual game pace, to allow comparison to overall performance.
All of this data is thanks to KenPom's Game Plan pages for each team.
It is important to keep in mind that these stats are normalized to the average performance for a given team. Since OSU and Georgetown are very similar in offensive and defensive efficiency and KenPom's pythagorean ratings, this is a rare time when you won't get in much trouble just comparing the two sets of graphs.
Also note that I've stolen from PhogBlog (or was it Big Ten Wonk?) and added polynomial fit lines through the data. While these give a rough idea of trend, don't get too hung up on them, as typically the data has so much scatter that their significance is weak.
Overall performance (as always, click any figure to enlarge)
Georgetown

OSU

Just visually, OSU is the more consistant team, and KenPom agrees - his consistency stat ranks OSU 99th, G'town 220th. Georgetown has shown greater improvement as the season has progressed, but both teams seem to have peaked or plateaued at this point (good timing). I'll argue that this is a marker of good coaching.
Offensive Efficiency Performance
Georgetown

OSU

Again, OSU is the more consistent team (that first data point was a win against VMI and their 321st ranked defense, so the Buckeyes were going to look bad unless they absolutely destroyed them). More interestingly, OSU seems to have found another gear offensively in the Sweet 16. Georgetown, as we've seen all year, has become a very good offensive team, with an occasional stinker (e.g. @ Syracuse) and an occasional jaw-dropper (UNC).
Defensive Efficiency Performance
Georgetown

OSU

Here, both teams seem to have moved a bit past their peak, although the scatter in the data is too large to say that with any confidence.
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